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Posted Jun 23, 2002 at v:14:06 PM

Bailiwick: Cracking leaps and Reading rate - what's advisable goal

We just started using groovy leaps with our 8 year onetime son - and the results are fascinating. And consistent with the neuropsych eval. we had done last jump which found him to have high phonemic awareness, just incredibly slow processing speed and ho-hum rate on the Gray Oral reading test. I've started him at the beginning of the phonics and phrases and he'due south at the primer level in the stories. In about 2 days of reading he can master a page and movement on. Based on input from many of you I've sort of concluded that he has a rapid naming problem and that is the main cause of his reading consequence. What I've observed is that fifty-fifty on a new page his error rate is depression (0-1) so he seems to exist reading accurately - just slowly . So here is my question: what should the words per minute rate for a child his age be? (he'south going into third grade in the fall) I just want to have a sense of how his performance with this material compares to real life expectations. Thanks!

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Posted:Jun 23, 2002 vii:16:36 PM

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He should be reading 80 or more wpm. In Keen Leaps they are supposed to read the page in 60 seconds or less. I have two students who are so astringent they can spend WEEKS on a single page of phonics or phrases and NOT achieve this. So, I set the rate somewhere more reasonable and tell them nosotros are going for accuracy over speed.

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Posted:Jun 23, 2002 nine:48:23 PM

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I've been pleasently surprised with his work then far. He's reguarly in the hello-50 to 70 wpm with skilful accuracy. (He even hit 103 one day!) I'thou sure he doesn't read this quickly on a regular basis - knowing he'south trying to beat the timer is a big incentive. Just I am hopeful that it volition improve his fluency over time. Cheers!

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Posted:Jun 24, 2002 one:55:02 AM

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Please keep u.s.a. informed on his progress!

I'chiliad very interested since my son also has fluency bug.
Best of luck to you!!! :-)

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Posted:Jun 24, 2002 9:41:58 AM

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You lot are welcome. It sounds like he is progressing well.

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Posted:Jun 24, 2002 three:47:47 PM

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Some of the fluency research indicates optimum gains when the passages are read iv-6 times. In using Bang-up Leaps with students, I begin their piece of work at unlike points in the passages only start all at the beginning of phrases section. Not sure what Ken Campbell would accept to say about this, it'southward only what I do.

I have had some wonderful success in using Swell Leaps with slow visual processors. Some students enjoy reading the poems, etc. for dramatic flair and we exercise some equally a small-grouping Reader's Theater kind of matter; sometimes in two voices if I tin can make the piece fit.

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Posted:Jun 24, 2002 v:25:56 PM

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Thank you for the tips. I am very hopeful this will work for him!

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Posted:Jun 24, 2002 x:12:10 PM

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That'due south pretty good advice. The phrases piece is the part of which I am most proud - except perchance some of the sillier poems. For years those of u.s. in precision education have tried to have what we called "sight words" generalize. Our speed tactics didn't piece of work. Information technology appeared even though the child knew the give-and-take in isolation - when reading time came - the high error rates maintained.

By having these words mixed in phrases - with requirements getting progressively difficult and fifty-fifty configuratively confusing (how's that for alliteration??) students who completed the word greatly lowered their fault rates with these words. Others across the country accept achieved the same results - though (unfortunately for business) at that place have been no formal studies of which I am aware.

If I conducted such a written report - would my personal interest bias my piece of work?? If not in reality, certainly in the minds of many readers.

I'll exist preparation at East Carolina in August. I'll be at Illinois' Branch IDA in October. I'll be at NY's Branch IDA in the spring. Mostly, I'll be at abode working at Avant-garde Fluency Building and putting the finishing touches on a complimentary writing plan. I'll be enjoying my two boys and my young one-year old granddaughter who recently had neuro-surgery and has healed wonderfully - thank you in part to the prayers and good wishes of the educational activity community across the country.

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 12:21:45 AM

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Susan,

Very interesting....I utilize phrases first, too. My reasoning is, if the child has decoding problems we need to get that straightened out offset, and I utilise other things for that. I prefer using words (phrases and stories) over phonemes for fluency do.

I do like Great Leaps, though, Ken, and notice it very like shooting fish in a barrel to use and very motivating for the children.

Janis

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 8:24:nineteen AM

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Ken - I just wanted to give you direct feedback. Its likewise soon to tell what the touch on will exist for my son, but so far so skillful! he is enjoying it, and what the program has revealed to me about his reading is very interesting and helpful!

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 viii:30:39 AM

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Last night he hit 110 wpm reading a story he has read maybe half-dozen times before. It only took a few days, simply subsequently his intial timing he wanted to exercise a few times which I understand is allowed.( His error rate is 0-1 from the beginning, he only had to increase his speed .) Am I right? Does information technology sound like we are using the materials correctly? When you are working with a pupil do you ever skip stories, or do yous just proceed page by page? Exercise you practise anything to help children carry over the skills they develop while using Great Leaps to their every twenty-four hours reading? I ask that question b/c my son is an anxious reader, and has performed much amend with Great Leaps than I expected .

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 nine:06:12 AM

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Karen,

I do the pages in order in Nifty Leaps. It sounds like your son is motivated past the program and is doing quite well!

The best thing yous tin have him do is read other things of his choice to you lot everyday (untimed, of class). Hopefully the success with GL will behave over into his other reading. That'due south why I'd accept him read other things aloud too.

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 9:15:48 AM

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What I like about the phrases are the attending that the child must requite to those high frequency words my students are prone to confusing: of, for, from and others.

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 i:48:02 PM

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Howdy Ken--

I've been considering a fluency study--but always have trouble assigning kids to a control group when I know they need handling! I oasis't done a thorough lit search yet, but hope to do this in the autumn. And then mayhap...

I do take some anecdotal evidence with 6th grade students: Students with LD in my classes who received repeated readings fluency intervention (n=34) grew in their class-level reading ability at twice the charge per unit equally those that received only discussion recognition and comprehension interventions (n=21). This information appeared because I didn't have help some hours from a paraprofessional or parent volunteer to do fluency intervention. This which created an accidental control grouping.

Personally, I don't think it would be biased for yous to plan a study and have others implement it. I think middle-school age would be a dandy place to do it since lots of kids have tertiary and 4th course reading levels but read too slowly.

How did you lot decide what to clamper for phrases? (How many words/types of phrases)

Susan LongKen wrote:
>
> That's pretty practiced advice. The phrases piece is the office of
> which I am nearly proud - except mayhap some of the sillier
> poems. For years those of us in precision teaching have
> tried to accept what we called "sight words" generalize. Our
> speed tactics didn't work. It appeared even though the kid
> knew the word in isolation - when reading time came - the
> high error rates maintained.
>
> Past having these words mixed in phrases - with requirements
> getting progressively difficult and even configuratively
> confusing (how's that for alliteration??) students who
> completed the word greatly lowered their error rates with
> these words. Others beyond the country take achieved the
> same results - though (unfortunately for business organisation) there have
> been no formal studies of which I am aware.
>
> If I conducted such a study - would my personal interest bias
> my work?? If not in reality, certainly in the minds of many
> readers.
>
> I'll be training at East Carolina in Baronial. I'll be at
> Illinois' Branch IDA in October. I'll be at NY's Branch IDA
> in the spring. By and large, I'll exist at home working at Advanced
> Fluency Building and putting the finishing touches on a
> gratuitous writing program. I'll exist enjoying my two boys
> and my immature i-year old granddaughter who recently had
> neuro-surgery and has healed wonderfully - thanks in part to
> the prayers and good wishes of the education community across
> the country.
>
> Ken Campbell

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 ane:51:12 PM

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No offense, Ken, but I don't use the phonics part. I use decodable text with about of the kids and the Bang-up Leaps telescopic and sequence on the phonics section doesn't friction match mine.

I exercise employ, though, both stories and phrases.

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 iv:51:17 PM

Bailiwick:Is there a way to see a sample of your program, Great Leaps?

I went to your website, only I did not encounter any samples of the reading program. I am very interested in this program, but hate to buy something sight unseen. Thanks,
Jan P.

P.S. My dd has auditory and visual processing disorders. She has very wearisome rapid naming skills. She also skips pocket-sized words such equally of, a, on. She besides has problem with sciatic skills -- she jumps back in her reading from left to correct.

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 v:21:59 PM

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I practice skip stories with children. Some boys don't wish to read some stories about girls and vice versa. Some things are such tongue twisters to some children that they get very frustrated.

I let the private student be my guide.

I'chiliad not sure that inquiry evidences positive bear on for more 6-7 trials on repeated readings (Reference: National Reading Panel--tin get folio/section if desired. This is merely off-the-cuff.) I usually move on afterward almost a calendar week unless the child is close and enjoying the competition with him/herself. Ken?

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 5:34:45 PM

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Anitya and Susan,

As I sat hither and reread some of these posts, I realize that I am speaking of using the GL iii-5 gr. books. Have either of you used the K-2?

Janis

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Posted:Jun 25, 2002 eleven:29:49 PM

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Ken ---

I take been teaching for iv+ years (special education - LD/EBD)-- admittedly love great leaps! I learned about through my college professor -- Adory Buetel. Anyways, it's definately a slice to the puzzle when working with reading fluency. I use Lindamood first and so use Great Leaps as a working an transfering. Kids can't get enough of information technology. This past year, small groups used this in the 3rd class as a supplement. The general ed teacher was impressed. Thanks for a great program. Tell me more about the writing programme you are working on when you lot get a take chances.

Thanks again!

Angela

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Posted:Jun 26, 2002 vii:56:26 AM

Subject area:Re: Is in that location a way to come across a sample of your program, Great Le

Aye, call or email me (numbers from the website - ship electronic mail at contact us), I'll transport articles and samples. My job in creating the programme was to simplify extant research then lay people could help their children due west/o mortgaging their homes - so that large amounts of children could become remediated in a nation not intent on helping those behind. Ken

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Posted:Jun 26, 2002 8:06:38 AM

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Susan,
The Slap-up Leaps Phonics piece is simple, designed so someone with express background in teaching and phonics tin can teach a child only enough to make a logical guess based on contextual clues in a given passage. Most special educators are well-trained in more sophisticated approaches. The Orton-Gillingham people have long used just Parts 2 and 3 of Great Leaps as a supplement to their work.

Before someone said decoding had to exist a loftier rates before reading phrases or passages could begin. With non-reading older children I strongly urge a coordinated arroyo. The behavioral consequences of non reading are too deleterious to motivation (among other things) to not endeavour to motion them as fast equally humanly possible. Many working sophisticated interventions with dyslexics go to phrases and uncomplicated stories when phonemic awareness is reached.

Ken

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